On the eve of the 81st Annual Truck Loggers Association Convention, ForestNet brings us an exclusive interview with the new TLA executive director, Peter Lister. This episode explains the practical drivers behind BC’s current forestry downturn — rising permit costs, trade duties, changing land‑use governance, and the operational impacts those forces are having on mills, contractors and communities. Peter Lister, MASc, PEng, ICD.D — Executive Director of the Truck Loggers Association with more than 35 years in the sector — outlines the immediate causes and possible responses. He details specific examples (Altmill, Crofton, 100 Mile House), quantifies key impacts (BC harvest ≈ 30 million m³; planning costs rising from $4/m³ to $14/m³ = roughly $300M additional industry cost), and explains how U.S. duties near 45% and higher operating costs make BC uncompetitive for investment.